. >> rose: including al qaeda's web site, places lth. >> yeah, well "inspire" magazine came out in 2010. this is anwar al-awlaki and samir khan, two americans in yemen, they put out this online magazine and in the first edition there's an article "how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom." now it talks spefically about a bomb in a pressure cooker and it says you can use matchsticks to make a bomb. we had an individual by the name of jose pimental who is in jail right now awaiting trial, he did precisely that. he took 600 matchsticks, put in the two or three bombs he made. we had somebody very close to him, he was arrested for it. but it talks in this first "inspire" edition it talks specifically about using a pressure cooker. so these are not complex items. he did it literally by the numbers. he had the papers laid out in front of him and did by the numbers so the genie is out of the bottle as far as making a bomb is concerned. >> rose: how do you protect or try to find those kinds of people? >> with difficulty. obviously we want intelligence information. we want to prevent this as